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QNU: LGBT Wisconsin's Most Complete Daily Briefing
Cover Story: John
McGivern, Hasani Issa and "Take Me Out" Quest: Have you seen a
previous production? March
30 Feature
Task Force’s Winter Party Warms $300K To
Gay GroupsBy Steve Vargas and Nathan Mathis Miami Beach - Backs and bodies - smooth, freckled, tattooed, tan and mostly all ripped - pulsed in the salt breeze on South Beach at the dance party finale at the Winter Party, held March 5 and yearly to raise money for local and national gay rights groups. As
the sun set, house anthems spread a bittersweet euphoria across the
crowd of 5,000 partygoers, mostly men.“It’s a male-bonding, sensual, tribal-type of connection, being able to touch and be physical with other guys and express what you never got as a kid,” Mark Heiner, a bartender in town from New York told us. The bash unofficially kicked off what is known as “circuit party” season, attendees said - for the next six months, some will travel a world-circuit in search of the best party around. “It looks pretty, but there’s a dark side that can happen,” Heiner said, nodding to the drug abuse and often-futile search for love that he said can mark the scene. In Miami Beach, though, the beach party wound down a five-day winter festival which this year drew 10,000 guests - at least 6,000 from snow socked northern cities and other points out of town. Begun in 1994 to raise cash to defeat anti-gay state legislation, the Winter Party is now run by the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, a non-profit advocacy group working to build grassroots support for gay rights. Amid the South Beach soiree, the group has retained its political mission, kicking two-thirds of the festival’s estimated $300,000 in profits back to local gay groups. “People want to stereotype gay people into being white, handsome and dancing - and that is definitely a part of our community that we’re intensely proud of,” Matt Foreman, executive director of the national Task Force said. “But our community is also families with children, poor people and people of color.” He also added, “ I don’t see any tension between serious work and good parties, but we’re going to keep on broadening the festival.” This year, then, the five-day bash spilled beyond house-heavy circuit parties to include golf, museums, wine-tasting and beachfront films, a family picnic and fashion show - in part reflecting the evolution of an aging gay rights movement that now reaches out to baby boomers, too, said festival spokeswoman Sharon Kersten. But beneath the bamboo scaffold and billowing white banners on the beach, dancing was still the main point. “It makes you feel so happy and independent,” Connecticut financial consultant Emre Algan said. “It makes me feel creative, like I can be myself.” The crowd at the Beach Party was ruled cute, not hard, by a soft-spoken spectator from Atlanta, standing along the seaside fence. The sun-splashed vibe was all about community, family and pride. Later as dark fell, so did the bass - from soaring, lyric-filled anthems to deep tribal house. Meanwhile, in speedos and cargo shorts, golden-backed boys twirled fluorescent scarves like trippy windmill waves, a move called “flagging.” Otherwise, there was no voguing, no posing, just dancing - for itself, for the way it looks, for the way it feels. “It’s more about a free spirit, to do your own thing, to set trends,” pharmacist Richard Long said before heading to the risers for a view of the sun-kissed crowd. Standing there, it just seemed possible that dancers might be “the athletes of God” or at least that’s what Albert Einstein once said, according to Circuit Noize magazine, handed out at the party. And as diva Kim English took the stage at sunset, belting out her anthem “Unspeakable Joy,” it was so: Crowds rose in a cheer between the sand dunes and sea and lost themselves in the swirl. February
2 Feature
John Waters
Wants To Corrupt YouQuest's Exclusive Interview with John Waters Can it really be 41 years since famed movie director John Waters made his first film? The title of his first cinematic opus, by the way, is
"Hag in a Black Leather Jacket," a 17-minute short done when Waters was
a mere 18 years old. Many years and countless subversive films later
and the man William Burroughs once called "The Pope of Bad Taste" is
showing no signs of slowing up. Recently spotted at Sundance, Waters is
currently promoting "John Waters Presents Movies That Will Corrupt
You," debuting on Here! Networks beginning February 3. John Waters will host and introduce the 13 outrageous
and extraordinary films which he personally selected. Viewers will have
the unique experience of being invited into Waters? colorful Baltimore
home as he introduces each film.??
"I'm trying to invite the viewer into my world to
show them extreme, intelligent movies that will push them closer to the
edge of cinema insanity," Waters explained. "Here! Networks has been
incredibly supportive in my search for films that will corrupt an
audience that thinks they have seen everything."
The 13 features on "John Waters Presents Movies That
Will Corrupt You" are not your typical "run-of-the-mill" gay films;
rather,
this collection will make audiences think and question
their own political correctness. "I'm not showing any touching
coming-out films," Waters said. "We are beyond them. I'm really hoping
to get a gay audience that is pretty adventuresome, and really cool
straight people who hopefully come back week after week for more." Taking time from his hectic schedule, John Waters was
gracious enough to offer Glenn time for a special one-on-one interview.
A daunting task, to be sure. Let the tape roll:
Quest: How did you
chose the films for "John Waters Presents Movies That Will Corrupt You"?
Waters: We came up
with this concept and it has happened very, very quickly. Here!
Networks went for it. I said to them, "I don't have to pick all gay
films, do I?" Not all gay films are good, some of them are really
corny, like the early days of black cinema. They said no, we want you
to pick movies that smart gay people will like and will lure insane
straight people to our channel. So, that's the same way I have parties.
And they are the movies that I'd show you if I invited you over to my
house, in order of how I could seduce you.
Quest: What do you
feel do these 13 films have in common?
Waters: These movies only played
sometimes for a week in New York or at some film festivals. That was
the point. This will probably be the largest audience some of these
movies will ever have. And I wanted to bring them to a public that
maybe is not familiar with them. If you are going to watch movies on a
show called, "John Waters Presents Movies That Will Corrupt You,"
basically I think you should be surprised and I don?t think that you?d
be surprised if you saw my movies or ?All About Eve? or typical movies
you'd think a gay film festival would include. I didn't want to be
quite that cliche about it.
Quest: Some people
might wonder why you didn't include one of your own films?
Waters: Everyone
has seen them. I would never, if I was inviting you over to my house to
seduce you, ever show you one of my
films. Only Barbara Streisand would do that. Quest: If you had
to pick one, which of your films would you want included?
Waters: Oh, well I
certainly guess "Pink Flamingos" has done its job over the years. I
keep having kids come up to me now who are 17 and have just seen it and
they have tattoos of Divine, they have dialogue from "Female Trouble"
tattooed on them. So, these movies seem to be great recruitments to the
John Waters cult.
Quest: There are
some films on the list that are going to be readily recognizable to
Here! Networks audience: "L.I.E.," "The Fluffer" and "Beefcake." Some
of the films, "Baxter" or "Clean Shaven" for instance, will
probably surprise viewers?
Waters: "Baxter" is
an easy film to enjoy. It is about an S & M dog. If that isn't gay,
what is? But, but, but "Clean Shaven" is the one that pushing it the
most. I addressed this in my introduction - why this is on a gay
channel, a movie about a schizophrenic - because I think that gay
people have to realize that they may have had problems in their lives
because they are gay or coming out but that ain't nothing compared to a
schizophrenic. I was trying to show a movie that will make you
uncomfortable. I love movies that will make you uncomfortable. I don't
go to movies to be entertained or to be made feel good. I'm suspicious
of people that do that. The guy in "Clean Shaven" is handsome. Maybe
that's how I can say it is a gay movie. You just wish he wasn't
schizophrenic so you could sleep with him.
Quest: Were there
films you wanted to include but you felt were too extreme?
Waters: No.
(pauses) I guess maybe the only one is "Salo." I think that I was
saving that to end the second season, if we ever do one. There were a
few I couldn't get the rights to, like "Boom." That's the only one I
can think of that I really wanted that I couldn't get.
Quest: What queer
filmmakers do you really like or think are up-and-coming?
Waters: What
directors do I like that are gay, I'd have to think. I guess Todd
Haynes, Gus van Sant, Bruce LaBruce. They're the main ones in the art
world, right? Certainly Pasolini was one of my favorites, that's why I
wanted to put in the documentary about him.
Quest: Can you talk
about your next film project?
Waters: I'm really
thinking it up but it's really too early to talk about it. I never talk
about a movie when it is in this stage. I think it's bad luck. After
the television show, I'm doing a Court TV television show where I'm
playing a character called the "Groom Reaper" and I'm also filming my
one-man spoken word show called, "This Filthy World." So, these are my
next two projects. I've thought up the movie but haven't written it yet
- I plan to do it this summer in Provincetown.
Quest: I've read
that the film of the Broadway musical "Hairspray" is in pre-production?
Waters: It is but
I'm not directing it. They are making the movie, yes, New Line is
making it. It is a very big Hollywood movie of the musical, which I'm
all for. I'm not directing it, I didn't want to direct it. What they
have to do now is re-invent the Broadway play, the same way that the
Broadway play re-invented my movie. I think that we've seen from both
"Rent" and "The Producers" that just shooting the play as a movie maybe
doesn't work.
Quest: With the
success of "Hairspray" on Broadway now becoming a big screen Hollywood
movie, are you concerned that John Waters is becoming too mainstream?
Waters: Are you
kidding. My last movie got a NC-17, it was a nightmare. No, I don't
think so. And I think having a television show showing "Irreversible"
and "Pink Narcissus" and "Clean Shaven" is hardly mainstream. I have
nothing against being mainstream. I am not an outsider any more. I am
proud to be an insider because that's even more perverse. How could I
be an insider? I haven't really changed. But certainly, maybe, the
American public has changed more than I have. I made my first film 41
years ago. I've been in this game for a long time. I keep trying to
re-invent what I am but at the same time its not that different. I
think you could take any one of my movies or this television show and
look at it and it is pretty much consistent of what my values really
are and I don't think they are bad values.
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